Youtube contact support SMEARED (battling a hate speach strike boyos. Apperently denouncing nazism is hate speech)

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11:39:07 PM Armor: Hi, this is Armor. How are you doing today?

11:40:17 PM Armor: I can see you have a few questions regarding Community STrike, is that right?

11:40:55 PM Reformed Stoic: Well, I'm a bit taken back by this hate speech strike I received in my latest video explaining the horrors of Nazism and totalitarianism. In my video "The Totalitarian Technocrat Collectivist Hell is here (EPIC rant)" I broke down how modern far right political movements are misleading people to cheer on a totalitarian regime. I was not given a time stamp in my 21 minute video to show where any hate speech took place.

11:41:46 PM Armor: Thanks for sharing your concern.

11:41:47 PM Armor: I appreciate you bringing this up to my attention.

11:42:25 PM Reformed Stoic: The video spoke passionately against Nazism, totalitarianism, and far right politics. It seems strange for youtube to label anti-nazi rhetoric hate speech.

11:43:09 PM Armor: I completely understand how important this is to you as Creator

11:43:35 PM Armor: I know that all you want is to be able to appeal for the said video that gives you a strike.

11:43:37 PM Armor: Don't worry I will make sure to get & provide all the information you need regarding your concern.

11:43:39 PM Armor: Let me first ask you a few questions for us to investigate this matter, is that okay?

11:43:51 PM Reformed Stoic: Sure.

11:44:51 PM Armor: Thank you so much.

11:44:57 PM Armor: To begin, may I have your first name please?

11:45:04 PM Reformed Stoic: Jake

11:45:28 PM Armor: Thanks Jake.

11:45:29 PM Armor: To confirm, is this the Channel URL ID, we are referring to?

https://youtube.com/channel/UCvRP7CKUHWTJamANqg8NCTQ

11:45:50 PM Reformed Stoic: Yes

11:46:26 PM Armor: Thanks for confirming.

11:46:43 PM Armor: Let me now go ahead and check all details regarding this issue.

11:47:56 PM Armor: Do you mind if I ask for 3-5 minutes here to fully review your channel?

11:49:01 PM Reformed Stoic: I would prefer if the video in question was the only video reviewed. I'm not sure why I should be investigated for an unfair hate speech strike that I was given no explanation for.

11:49:35 PM Armor: I get that you wanted me to review the video in quesiton.

11:49:46 PM Armor: Though please understand that we as a Creator Support have a process to follow,

11:50:02 PM Armor: We also need to make sure we complete our documentations before we can proceed with the any issues.

11:50:30 PM Armor: I would greatly appreciate if you can give me few minutes to look into this matter.

11:50:39 PM Armor: So again, may I ask if you give me few minutes here?

11:50:44 PM Reformed Stoic: In the past, I've been given a time stamp in the video showing the specific segment where hate speech was used. I was not given any time stamp in this 21 minute video.

11:51:17 PM Reformed Stoic: I don't see how unfair treatment should be met with more unfair treatment.

11:52:21 PM Armor: I get that you need to get this video reviewed.

11:52:35 PM Armor: Is it okay if I can proceed with my investigation here?

11:52:41 PM Reformed Stoic: Sure

11:53:26 PM Armor: Please stay with me and I will be right back.

11:55:08 PM Reformed Stoic: I realize that Google is owned by the CIA, and you might take some of my exposure of the CIAs dark history personally. It just seems like labelling it hate speech is dishonest, especially when I'm not offered any evidence that I used hate speech. Operation paperclip has been declassified.

11:55:29 PM Reformed Stoic: 🙂

11:55:35 PM Armor: I can see that you have already submitted your appeal.

11:55:49 PM Armor: Kindly just wait until we receive a result from our Internal Team.

11:56:07 PM Armor: Please know that we as a Creator Support do not have any says, or take in terms of getting a community strike.

11:56:22 PM Armor: I get that you wish to get a fair treatment about this video that has received a strike.

11:56:34 PM Reformed Stoic: I was not given a time stamp showing where hate speech took place, the video is 21 minutes long.

11:56:41 PM Armor: Since you have already submitted an appeal

11:57:00 PM Armor: I would suggest you to wait until you get a decision from our Internal Team.

11:57:06 PM Reformed Stoic: I feel entitled to an explanation, as a monetized content creator.

11:57:40 PM Armor: We know that getting a timestamp for a video is what all creator wish to know whenever getting a violation.

11:57:55 PM Armor: Though keep in mind that as a Creator, you know your content better than anyone else.

11:57:58 PM Reformed Stoic: It's a question of accountability. It seems like you just label videos that you don't like hate speech.

11:58:08 PM Armor: Our system will an initial scan before it gets a strike.

11:58:25 PM Armor: Now if the strike is indeed unfair or we feel that it is not a correct decision.

11:58:30 PM Armor: We submit an appeal

11:58:33 PM Armor: Which I can see that you already made.

11:58:42 PM Armor: So at this time, all we have to do is wait

11:58:55 PM Reformed Stoic: The CIA has never really liked having their dirty laundry aired out. RIP JFK.

11:59:45 PM Armor: I would also suggest you to get familiarized with our Hate Speech Policy here:

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2801939

12:00:31 AM Reformed Stoic: I'm familiar. If you put a time stamp in the video where hate speech took place, then I would have an idea of where you think I used hate speech.

12:00:43 AM Armor: At this rate, what we can do is simply wait until a human review finish their evaluation with your video.

12:01:26 AM Reformed Stoic: I've been through the process before. I won't get an explanation of where I used hate speech.

12:01:35 AM Armor: As a Participant of YouTube Partner Program, it is expected for us to create videos and content and however you also have to make sure that each videos are aligned with our Community Guidelines.

12:02:09 AM Armor: It is important that we have a better understanding that your video is your own responsibility as a Creator.

12:02:09 AM Reformed Stoic: I was not given an explanation of how my content went against the guidelines.

12:02:17 AM Armor: To learn more about Creator Responsibility you may also review this link below:

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/7650329

12:02:50 AM Reformed Stoic: It's your responsibility to time stamp where you are hearing hate speech. No time stamp was given in the 21 minute video.

12:02:55 AM Armor: Kindly wait until we can get to an update from the appeal you made.

12:02:59 AM Reformed Stoic: I'm merely trying to hold you accountable.

12:03:25 AM Reformed Stoic: I guess youtube is kind of totalitarian if you don't have to explain yourself on any level.

12:04:06 AM Armor: I believe I have already given you all the answers that we can provide.

12:04:14 AM Reformed Stoic: Are you a bot?

12:04:16 AM Armor: But maybe we have overlooked my chats so let me send it with you again here

12:04:22 AM Armor: Please know that we as a Creator Support do not have any says, or take in terms of getting a community strike.

12:04:56 AM Armor: I would take that as a huge compliment that you think of me as a bot, but I am a human.

12:05:38 AM Reformed Stoic: It just seems like if I used hate speech, a time stamp could have taken me right to the place where it was used.

12:05:52 AM Armor: It would be great if you can understand that we as a Creator Support have limited means of giving out any information as this needs to come from our Internal team.

12:06:26 AM Reformed Stoic: Seeing as how no time stamp was given, it leads one to believe that my video is being unjustly striked.

12:07:10 AM Armor: You can review this part of the Hate Speech Policy while waiting for the update of your Appeal.

12:07:30 AM Armor: Screenshot 2023-02-09 4.07.18 PM.png

12:07:35 AM Reformed Stoic: No hate speech was pointed out. It's a 21 minute video.

12:08:09 AM Armor: Based on how you describe to me the context of your video, it may fall under this section:

Conspiracy theories saying individuals or groups are evil, corrupt, or malicious based on any of the attributes noted above

12:08:25 AM Reformed Stoic: You seem to be operating under the assumption that youtube is incapable of making poor judgments. Have you ever studied logic?

12:08:40 AM Armor: So again Jake, it is best if you can wait until the result of your appeal comes out.

12:08:57 AM Armor: Because at this rate, we on our department, don't have any means to help but to simply wait.

12:09:10 AM Reformed Stoic: I'll take that as a no.

12:09:43 AM Armor: Or you can take it as we are not allowed to answer or give out any comments in this topic you are asking.

12:10:04 AM Armor: I hope you can understand that.

12:10:19 AM Armor: Do you have any other questions aside from this?

12:11:20 AM Reformed Stoic: Yes, how do you sleep at night knowing that you are shilling for the CIA? You should really watch my video. Mk ultra has been declassified, it's not a conspiracy theory. The CIA took part in brutal human experimentation recycled from Nazi programs.

12:12:19 AM Armor: I get that receiving a strike from a certain video you posted is completely frustrating.

12:12:22 AM Reformed Stoic: Alan Dules, former director of CIA, gave Hitler a positive review leading to his rise to power.

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Allen-W-Dulles

12:12:31 AM Armor: And I can only imagine how you would feel about it.

12:13:29 AM Armor: I would love to give my personal opinion but we are not allowed to do so.

12:13:50 AM Armor: Do you have any other questions aside ?

12:15:21 AM Reformed Stoic: Will I be able to get an explanation of where I used hate speech after the review?

12:15:53 AM Reformed Stoic: I think no time stamp being given calls for some further elaboration.

12:16:13 AM Reformed Stoic: especially if the appeal isn't accepted.

12:16:17 AM Armor: I believe that I answered your questions twice.

12:16:31 AM Reformed Stoic: You did not, you just told me to wait for the review.

12:16:37 AM Armor: That's right.

12:16:50 AM Armor: Because that's that time we can only give any information about your video.

12:16:59 AM Reformed Stoic: That's not an answer to my question. I want an explanation. How do I talk to someone at youtube?

12:16:59 AM Armor: As it has to be coming from our Internal team.

12:17:18 AM Armor: I am from YouTube 🙂

12:17:23 AM Reformed Stoic: How do I speak to a higher up? How to I hold youtube accountable?

12:17:28 AM Armor: You can simply wait for any update of your Appeal.

12:17:39 AM Armor: We are currently having a high chat volume.

12:17:40 AM Armor: I'm sorry but I need to disconnect this chat to assist other partners that also need assistance.

12:17:47 AM Armor: Please dont hesitate to contact us back if you have other concerns that you need help.

12:17:53 AM Reformed Stoic: I need a time stamp.

12:18:12 AM Armor: Jake, can I ask you a question?

12:18:15 AM Reformed Stoic: No time stamp means I'm being treated unfairly.

12:18:39 AM Reformed Stoic: If there was hate speech, then time stamp it.

12:19:47 AM Armor: Were you able to receive an update from your Appeal?

12:20:05 AM Reformed Stoic: I'm thinking the subject of totalitarianism hit a bit too close to home for youtube.

12:20:16 AM Reformed Stoic: nope

12:20:37 AM Armor: So, what's hard to understand that you just have to wait until the outcome of Appeal shows up?

12:20:51 AM Armor: I would be giving you the timestamp if I have it with me.

12:21:09 AM Armor: I have given you the process that all you have to do is wait.

12:21:20 AM Reformed Stoic: I'm complaining that there was no time stamp. I've already dealt with this in the past.

12:21:26 AM Armor: Once we have it on our system or you receive the result of your appeal then you can simply chat back with us.

12:21:45 AM Reformed Stoic: alright. I'll be in touch then.

12:21:54 AM Armor: I have given you you all answers you, I will go ahead now and assist our Creators on the queue.

12:21:56 AM Armor: Have a great day.

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12:22:10 AM Armor: Thanks for contacting YouTube. Have a great day.

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